that was a reaction to the penn state situation, the jerry sandusky situation. and i guess that was a comment about everyone said, well, if i'd stumbled into that locker room or if someone had come to me with a story the way somebody came to joe paterno, of course, i would have done something. i would have raised a ruckus, and i would have ended this. but the reality is we have history with this. we have the history of the holocaust, a history of atrocities, general sides, and we've -- genocides, and we have done a whole bunch of social science experiments. and it turns out people don't interact. the famous kitty genovese case, she was the woman in queens, i think n new york in the '50s who was killed, and the original story was that, i think, 39 people saw it and nobody called the cops. in that case it's a little more complicated. but, in fact, this does happen all the time where people see something, and nobody calls the cops, nobody intervenes. a study i saw recently, i think it was done at penn state. they asked people suppose somebody made a sexist comment